In episode 6 of the KSP I’m honoured to be joined by my wonderful guest Stephen Drew, founder of the Architecture Social
In this incredible discussion Stephen and I talk about the business of architecture and how we as practitioners can view ourselves as ‘mini-businesses’ in our own right and place appropriate value on our time and services
A series by Khizr Studio.
0:00 – Introduction
3:29 – Why is communication important in architecture?, pitching, asking silly questions
7:00 – The story of Barry
8:30 – Entrepreneurial thinking, perception vs reality
10:07 – It’s OK to say you don’t know, entrepreneurialism
11:52 – The fear of failure
13:06 – Chasing approval, going for the ‘no’
16:46 – Stephen’s background, becoming a recruiter
18:51 – ‘Keeping things open and honest’ 19:54 – Personal brands, acting as a mini business in a big business
23:52 – Jeff Bezos, salary conversations
26:26 – The importance of understanding finance in architecture
29:52 – Taking risk, Architecture Social
31:51 – Putting worth on your work 34:57/35:43 – Parent rule 1: don’t talk to strangers!
39:09 – Jane Duncan, sales taboos
42:03 – Parent rule 2: don’t talk about money!
43:55 – Mr Beast, cutting fees vs quality
48:28 – The American Dream
49:11 – Elon Musk, what really makes you happy?, the harsh reality of being a business owner
49:58 – Do we need challenge to feel happy?, Starkitects
51:51 – Can enterprise be a conduit for projecting our philosophies and views into the world as architects?
54:30 – The costs of studying architecture
55:37 – Chaos, trust
59:29 – Ownership over your work, striving for quality
1:03:15 – The value of time, running a business
1:09:18 – Reciprocating support and adding value
1:12:51 – Summary and closing
1:14:02 – Some wise words from Stephen
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